Re: Need to Turn Off Proxy Server in SBS 4.5
From: ITC (cls1_at_atlantic.net)
Date: 03/10/04
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:49:48 GMT
Issue is moving users from SBS 4.5 Domain to Active Directory Domain. Both
machines cannot exist in the same domain, so two domains are needed. SBS
4.5 does not allow trusts, so forget moving users and workstations to domain
# 2 and trusting them back to domain # 1 for services, files, etc. until the
transition is complete.
Setup is standard...dual NICs. NIC # 1 connects to a switch and lives in
one local subnet convenient for the business system. NIC # 2 is in another
local subnet convenient for the router and is directly connected to the
router. Server is internal only...no outside web or ftp serving.
It *seems* like moving the patch from NIC # 2 to the switch (changing cables
as needed from crossover to straight) and telling the clients not to use a
proxy *would* work, but unfortunately it does not. (NOTE: if the server
has crashed, this does work...voice of experience!...but not with the Proxy
Server running.) In addition to moving the cable and disabling the proxy
client, as well as removing references in Internet Explorer to using a
proxy, I have stopped all Proxy Server services at the server, to no avail.
I have more than 25 years experience, but only about three (3) years with
SBS...lots more time with huge NT and Netware networks, and multi-platform
networks with mixed OS workstations, mainframes, midranges, programming and
interfacing it all together. Due to my limited experience with SBS 4.5, the
only thing I can figure is that since SBS allows authenticated domain users
internet access via integrated Proxy Server based on settings for each user
(which I have not altered during testing...turning internet access off for a
single test user), that...and I am *guessing* here...that Proxy Server may
be *capturing* user requests intended for the router but unable to *direct*
the requests to the router once the patch cable from NIC # 2 to the router
is *missing*. I am hoping there is a way to disable, turn off, or bypass
this single component of the integrated SBS 4.5 so my users can log into
domain # 1 and have the internet until server # 1 is taken off-line
permanently.
We are a 24-hour operation and fairly small in people although large in
territory and customer base, and there is minimal time to make a switch so I
have been instructed to make the switch during office hours...believe it or
not, this is the time of least impact since the larger number of employees
are in the field at that time. Irregardless, I need minimal impact for
office users since they need access to the internet for information from
government web sites critical to our business.
I have not tested passing user requests from Domain # 2 to the internet with
the cables changed over, but will be doing this soon. I am open to all
suggestions.
Thanks for all your help.
- Cat
"Rick Bond" <bond_1973@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:104u5dv3ipdbh01@corp.supernews.com...
> Maybe I don't understand 100% what you're trying to do, but couldn't you
> just (if you're currently running the standard 2 NIC setup) move the
> Ethernet cable that goes from the router to the 2nd NIC in the server to
the
> switch (not sure if you'd need to change to/away from a crossover cable)
and
> then tell each client computer not to go through the proxy any more?
>
> Rick
>
> "ITC" <cls1@atlantic.net> wrote in message
> news:SpE3c.29$g07.28104@newshog.newsread.com...
> > I am not migrating to SBS 2003. I am changing from SBS 4.5 to Windows
> 2003
> > Server Standard. I need to disable Proxy Server and allow the router
to
> > handle internet access via NAT.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > - Cat
> >
> >
> > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in
> message
> > news:EMq3c.5938$ks5.27795@typhoon.bart.nl...
> > > MS has this nice document for migrating from SBS 4.5 to SBS 2003. You
> > can't
> > > migrate without being offline.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Marina
> > > Microsoft SBS-MVP
> > >
> > > "ITC" <cls1@atlantic.net> schreef in bericht
> > > news:Onp3c.7$g07.1819@newshog.newsread.com...
> > > > I am putting a Windows 2003 Server on-line and removing Small
Business
> > > > Server 4.5 from service. I want the changeover to be smooth and
least
> > > > impact to my users. Of major concern is maintaining internet access
> > > during
> > > > the changeover. Since internet access is controlled by Proxy
Server,
> I
> > > > would like to turn off Proxy Server and allow my router to handle
> > access,
> > > > but still need to have the SBS 4.5 server on-line to move data off
and
> > > > available for users who are not yet moved to the Win2003 Domain.
Can
> > > > someone please tell me how to accomplish this feat.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > - Cat
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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