Re: Virtual SBS server

From: Cris Hanna \(SBS-MVP\) (crisnospamhanna_at_mindspring.com)
Date: 02/26/04 

Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 20:24:56 -0600

Sorry for the long time to respond.
I have been posting in HTML since I became an MVP for SBS 5 years ago. I typically get a complaint about once a year.

With regard to Outlook over HTTP, it might be a bit faster since you don't have the VPN overhead to contend with. I've not really compared the two side by side 

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  "Dale Walker" <dale@sorted.org> wrote in message news:um1i30lvk6n8vbad9tsn8dg7c1cmoah6v5@4ax.com...
  On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:29:51 -0600, "Cris Hanna \(SBS-MVP\)"
  <crisnospamhanna@mindspring.com> wrote:
  >See My Comments below yours (hopefully in red)
  Sorry but why are you using html in a USENET post? My Newsreader can't
  read it. 
  IMO html is a complete waste of bandwidth with regard to Usenet. Many
  newsreaders can't physically read it and I'm not about to change a
  decent newsreader just to read the 0.01% of the people that think html
  is a good idea for Usenet.
  However, I'll spend a bit of time loading your post into a newsreader,
  reconfigure it for other people and post back.
  >Hmm. I don't think they can stretch to 2 servers. 
  >
  >Was wondering about VPN. Can it be set up to automatically connect on
  >startup of Windows? (i.e before or during logging in), not afterwards.
  >Assuming that the workstations are either Win2k or XP, yes they can
  >logon to the VPN at the same time they logon to the machine by checking
  >that box at the logon screen that says connect via dialup networking
  >and then choosing the VPN connection
  That's good. This bunch (especially the director) are about as
  computerphobic as you can imagine and adding extra layers of
  complication (no matter how small) sends them reeling into utter
  panic. He still cannot grasp the difference between a modem and
  broadband connection and I've only just managed to convince him that a
  central place to store most of the documents is better than having a
  copy on each remote desktop. My gran has a better concept of computing
  than he has.
  >>If their main usuage is Exchange they could be doing Outlook over HTTP
  >
  >Nah. Outlook Web Access is far too limiting. It's OK to have a quick
  >look but my clients will need full Rules facilities.
  > 
  >Outlook over HTTP is different from OWA.   It connects the Outlook client (must be Outlook 2003 ..which comes with SBS 2003) to the Exchange server via HTTP/RDP 
  >Its the same Outlook they would use if on a lan.   Connection time might be a bit slower.
  That sounds good. So it's pretty much the same as Outlook over VPN in
  terms of speed then?
  >>Depending on the database VPN may work, TS is probably better
  >
  >What are advantages of using Terminal Services for anything other than
  >server admin over an Internet connection? Everyone already has a full
  >desktop (XP Pro) so making the server do all the work would be
  >counterproductive.
  >
  >As Per indicated in his response...pulling large files over VPN can be a killer, With TS its simply key strokes and video which passes over the "remote" wire.  I realise they have big machines and so it seems like a waste, but unless you have a huge pipe for every connection (workstations and server) you will probably find VPN just too slow as it adds its own bandwidth overhead so even though you might have a 768 connection, it might really be more like 512kb
  >For Database and large files of other types, TS is the answer 
  The significant problem is that the 'shared' files will be pretty
  small but the larger files are transitory (eg. designer -> printers)
  so TS in those situations wouldn't give a big advantage as the file
  still has to end up somewhere else rather than just sit on the server.
  I'm planning a web version of the database so that'll cure most of the
  database issues. It's a very small database and to be honest Access
  could cope with it just as well as SQL server.
  I'm seeing that TS is probably the way to go but I've got to persuade
  the director that this is the fastest way along with little impact to
  the way he's working now.
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