Re: access crashes every time I do this

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From: Allen Browne (AllenBrowne_at_SeeSig.Invalid)
Date: 09/25/04

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    Is it only one report that causes the problem?
    Or is it all reports in this database?
    Or is it all reports in all database (even Northwind)?

    -- 
    Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP.  Perth, Western Australia.
    Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
    Reply to group, rather than allenbrowne at mvps dot org.
    "carylrahn" <carylrahn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:5F3EE95E-B21C-41CD-8519-F0479DFC0ACF@microsoft.com...
    > Hi Allen and Nick,
    >
    > I have run it myself on another desktop running Windows 98 and Office 
    > 2000,
    > so the problem exists on Office versions 2000 and 2003 and Windows 
    > versions
    > 98, 2000 and XP Pro on both desktops and laptops. The machines are on
    > different LANS or even off the net all by their lonesome. One is running
    > Norton Anti-Virus with current definitions, one has Norton loaded, but the
    > definitions are over a year old. (It is not used on the internet) The 
    > other
    > computers are in other states and I am not sure what versions of 
    > everything
    > are running on them. I have a Windows 2000 machine I could try tomorrow as
    > well, but my friend told me he is seeing it there as well.
    >
    > Here is the error on the 98 machine:
    >
    > MSACCESS caused an invalid page fault in
    > module USER32.DLL at 017f:bff55472.
    > Registers:
    > EAX=0000001c CS=017f EIP=bff55472 EFLGS=00010202
    > EBX=00000000 SS=0187 ESP=0062efc8 EBP=0062efd0
    > ECX=00000918 DS=0187 ESI=0000001c FS=4b2f
    > EDX=00000000 ES=0187 EDI=000008fc GS=0000
    > Bytes at CS:EIP:
    > ad 3b c8 7c 10 ad 3b d0 7c 0b ad 3b c8 7d 06 ad
    > Stack dump:
    > 00000000 0062f7a8 0062eff0 301576bb 0000001c 00000918 00000000 00000914
    > 0062f974 0062f95c 0062f89c 3022451b 00000918 00000000 00000001 00000000
    >
    >
    > Originally the error was seen during QA on a new system being developed 
    > with
    > lots of data in the database. This is a migration from Excel to Access. In
    > order to isolate and reproduce it I wrote a small program that only has 
    > the
    > problem by itself.
    >
    > There is no network printer, but I have a printer I can attach to any of 
    > the
    > machines.
    >
    > Access was installed in different years from different CDs.
    >
    > My laptop has current service patches and updates. The Windows 98 machine
    > does not.
    >
    > I wish I could attach it here because the mdb file is only about 112K
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Caryl Rahn
    >
    > "Nick Coe (UK)" wrote:
    >
    >> To add to Allen's questions -
    >>
    >> Are all these machines networked?
    >>
    >> Do they share a network printer?  Do you have a default
    >> printer set in Windows?
    >>
    >> Are you using the same antivirus on all these machines?  Is
    >> it on all the time?
    >>
    >> Did you install Office from the same cd or admin install set
    >> to all these machines?
    >>
    >> Are all these machines running a firewall (zone alarm or
    >> whatever)?
    >>
    >> -- 
    >> Nick Coe (UK)
    >> www.alphacos.co.uk
    >>
    >> ---
    >>
    >> "carylrahn" <carylrahn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
    >> message
    >> news:5B4F49F4-01D3-48D3-8CB2-DB5596C663C0@microsoft.com...
    >> > Hi Allen,
    >> >
    >> > The probelm exists on 5 different computers. I know for
    >> sure that 3 of them
    >> > are totally differnet. I have a Dell 8600 laptop and two
    >> of them are
    >> > different types of desktops. I can make it happen remotely
    >> on one of the
    >> > computers as well using GoToMyPC.
    >> >
    >> > The error I get is:
    >> >
    >> > AppName: msaccess.exe      AppVer: 11.0.6355.0
    >> AppStamp:40aa97a8
    >> > ModName: user32.dll      ModVer: 5.1.2600.1255
    >> ModStamp:3f731c7d
    >> > fDebug: 0       Offset: 0000461d
    >> >
    >> > Does this help? In my recreation of the problem to isolate
    >> it, I have no
    >> > tables, just a form with 2 subforms and one report. None
    >> of them attempt  to
    >> > access a recordset.
    >> >
    >> > I am so stuck!
    >> >
    >> > "Allen Browne" wrote:
    >> >
    >> > > Okay: you are narrowing this down.
    >> > >
    >> > > The report had no data, but still crashed.
    >> > > Can I assume that it had no RecordSource at all?
    >> > > If so, it is clearly not a JET problem, and is starting
    >> to sound like a
    >> > > Windows problem or bad video driver.
    >> > >
    >> > > To test if Windows XP is a factor:
    >> > > If you are using Windows XP, close Access, right-click
    >> on the desktop, and
    >> > > choose Properties. Set the Theme to "Windows Classic".
    >> Then test the report
    >> > > again.
    >> > >
    >> > > To test if the video driver is the problem:
    >> > > Right-click the desktop, and choose:
    >> > >     Properties | Settings | Advanced | Troubleshoot
    >> > > Set Hardware acceleration to None.
    >> > >
    >> > > If you can't find the settings there, or are using a
    >> different version of
    >> > > Windows, go to the Control Panel, and try under Display
    >> Settings.
    >> > >
    >> > > It would be worth checking out if you can get an updated
    >> driver for your
    >> > > video card anyway.
    >> > >
    >> > > Hopefully that line of investigation will help track
    >> down the cause.
    >> > >
    >> > > -- 
    >> > > Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP.  Perth, Western Australia.
    >> > > Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
    >> > > Reply to group, rather than allenbrowne at mvps dot org.
    >> > >
    >> > > "carylrahn" <carylrahn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
    >> in message
    >> > >
    >> news:89C1867A-A85A-4ABC-BDBA-FD30934A12AD@microsoft.com...
    >> > > > Hi Allen,
    >> > > >
    >> > > > I appreciate the information, but I can recreate this
    >> and have with a
    >> > > > database with no data in it. I actually found out a
    >> little more today. If
    >> > > > I
    >> > > > open a report preview from a button on a form and then
    >> go to the scroll
    >> > > > bar
    >> > > > on the fom and click, Access will crash whether the
    >> report preview was
    >> > > > closed
    >> > > > or not. If I click anywhere else first the crash does
    >> not happen.
    >> > > >
    >> > > > The probelm happens on both Office 2003 and Office
    >> 2000. I have the
    >> > > > Professional Edition.
    >> > > >
    >> > > > Thanks, Caryl
    >> > > >
    >> > > > "Allen Browne" wrote:
    >> > > >
    >> > > >> This is probably some form of corruption.
    >> > > >> What version of Access? And which service pack?
    >> > > >>
    >> > > >> To rebuild it, try this sequence:
    >> > > >> 1. Uncheck the boxes under:
    >> > > >>         Tools | Options | General | Name AutoCorrect
    >> > > >> Explanation of why:
    >> > > >>
    >> http://members.iinet.net.au/~allenbrowne/bug-03.html
    >> > > >>
    >> > > >> 2. Compact the database:
    >> > > >>         Tools | Database Utilities | Compact.
    >> > > >>
    >> > > >> 3. Decompile a copy of the database by entering
    >> something like this at
    >> > > >> the
    >> > > >> command prompt while Access is not running. It is all
    >> one line, and
    >> > > >> include
    >> > > >> the quotes:
    >> > > >>     "c:\Program Files\Microsoft
    >> office\office\msaccess.exe" /decompile
    >> > > >>            "c:\MyPath\MyDatabase.mdb"
    >> > > >>
    >> > > >> 4. Compact again.
    >> > > >>
    >> > > >> That may be all you need to do. If it is still
    >> faulting at this point,
    >> > > >> the
    >> > > >> next step would be to follow the 5 steps for the
    >> first symptom in
    >> > > >> article:
    >> > > >>     Recovering from Corruption
    >> > > >> at:
    >> > > >>
    >> http://members.iinet.net.au/~allenbrowne/ser-47.html
    >> > > >>
    >> > > >> "carylrahn" <carylrahn@discussions.microsoft.com>
    >> wrote in message
    >> > > >>
    >> news:70838EDB-6DA5-4F96-8DCB-ECED4B290F52@microsoft.com...
    >> > > >> >I have a form with a print button. It brings up a
    >> print preview. When I
    >> > > >> >close
    >> > > >> > the print preview the form is back on the screen.
    >> If I click the scroll
    >> > > >> > bar
    >> > > >> > it will crash Access every time. I can reproduce
    >> the error at will.
    >> > > >> > This
    >> > > >> > is a
    >> > > >> > show stopper for my application and I already
    >> posted a question about
    >> > > >> > this
    >> > > >> > a
    >> > > >> > few days ago. Can someone please help. 
    

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